Comments on: Catch-22: The Web Developers Nightmare That Is Microsoft http://www.garyharan.com/index.php/2007/12/18/catch-22-the-web-developers-nightmare-that-is-microsoft/ This is my site. I write here. Sat, 05 Jul 2008 00:54:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.3 by: gary.haran http://www.garyharan.com/index.php/2007/12/18/catch-22-the-web-developers-nightmare-that-is-microsoft/#comment-3175 Thu, 20 Dec 2007 04:40:54 +0000 http://www.garyharan.com/index.php/2007/12/18/catch-22-the-web-developers-nightmare-that-is-microsoft/#comment-3175 Acid2 compliance is a big step in the right direction but this doesn't meant that all of the important bugs will be fixed. I'm thinking a good test that sets the bar high for IE in the JS/CSS department would be a good thing. Acid2 compliance is a big step in the right direction but this doesn’t meant that all of the important bugs will be fixed. I’m thinking a good test that sets the bar high for IE in the JS/CSS department would be a good thing.

]]> by: Mathieu Martin http://www.garyharan.com/index.php/2007/12/18/catch-22-the-web-developers-nightmare-that-is-microsoft/#comment-3174 Thu, 20 Dec 2007 04:35:33 +0000 http://www.garyharan.com/index.php/2007/12/18/catch-22-the-web-developers-nightmare-that-is-microsoft/#comment-3174 I particularly like the idea of banner ads :-) Imagine a provider that could very easily supply anyone with banner ads that break IE by following standards, just in the embedded section, no effort involved. I think that would suddenly make it very easy even for people that administer a site but don't have the time to change what's in place. Maybe when people start seeing it popup a couple times a week from places they respect, they'll start to say "oh, what the hell, I'll give it a shot." The only problem is that the people we must reach don't typically care about the sites that would be willing to display them. Also "unfortunately", they announced today that IE8 passed the ACID2 test*. They seem like they may be heading in the right direction. That is, if they keep going that way and don't just find a new way of backstabbing the web community again. * http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2007/12/19/internet-explorer-8-and-acid2-a-milestone.aspx I particularly like the idea of banner ads :-)

Imagine a provider that could very easily supply anyone with banner ads that break IE by following standards, just in the embedded section, no effort involved.

I think that would suddenly make it very easy even for people that administer a site but don’t have the time to change what’s in place.

Maybe when people start seeing it popup a couple times a week from places they respect, they’ll start to say “oh, what the hell, I’ll give it a shot.”

The only problem is that the people we must reach don’t typically care about the sites that would be willing to display them.

Also “unfortunately”, they announced today that IE8 passed the ACID2 test*. They seem like they may be heading in the right direction. That is, if they keep going that way and don’t just find a new way of backstabbing the web community again.

* http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2007/12/19/internet-explorer-8-and-acid2-a-milestone.aspx

]]> by: Carl Pelletier http://www.garyharan.com/index.php/2007/12/18/catch-22-the-web-developers-nightmare-that-is-microsoft/#comment-3172 Tue, 18 Dec 2007 21:11:22 +0000 http://www.garyharan.com/index.php/2007/12/18/catch-22-the-web-developers-nightmare-that-is-microsoft/#comment-3172 I think that every suggestions that include to ignore IE for your personal site is a error. You will loose too many users. We must find solution that make evolve people and not restrict developers or owner of web site. Transparent png are supported on IE7 i think. Explicitly alert IE users is the best way I think. Maybe to put a different picture that show the difference. The problem is not just that IE came with the computer but that every single big enterprise like Hydro Quebec use IE. The use will use the same platform at home that he use at is office because of is bookmark and everything. I don't have any other clue how to help user understand that IE is not the solution. Every user on a mac computer use safari, witch is a great browser, but that the one coming with Mac too. Sorry for bad English, I am French. I think that every suggestions that include to ignore IE for your personal site is a error. You will loose too many users. We must find solution that make evolve people and not restrict developers or owner of web site.

Transparent png are supported on IE7 i think. Explicitly alert IE users is the best way I think. Maybe to put a different picture that show the difference.

The problem is not just that IE came with the computer but that every single big enterprise like Hydro Quebec use IE. The use will use the same platform at home that he use at is office because of is bookmark and everything.

I don’t have any other clue how to help user understand that IE is not the solution. Every user on a mac computer use safari, witch is a great browser, but that the one coming with Mac too.

Sorry for bad English, I am French.

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